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UF Counselor Education Open House - Shared screen with speaker view
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
13:54
Faculty will be monitoring the chat as well if you would like to leave any questions here :)
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
18:17
I see Jade here too! Hi Jade :)
Shenice W Smith
30:29
How did the CACREP site visit go this spring or was it post-poned? Will you be awarded the certification again for the 4 program areas?
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
31:14
Shenice - CACREP is coming to “visit” virtually in October!
Shenice W Smith
31:24
Thanks.
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
31:44
Thanks for asking :)
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
33:31
And we see no reason to think we won’t be re-accredited in all of our programs. We design curriculum to meet or exceed standards!
Danielle Meikle
41:55
There’s no summer semesters?
Shenice W Smith
42:19
Should students have insurance starting the spring of year 2?
Hope Schuermann, Faculty
42:48
Insurance is required before entering clinical experiences
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
42:55
If you join ACA (American Counseling Association) you can get student insurance for free!
Christa Beriswill
43:00
what is the link to the P&I website?
Shenice W Smith
43:05
Thanks!
Hope Schuermann, Faculty
43:11
We will show you the website in just a minute :)
Christa Beriswill
43:16
Ok, thank you!
Sarah Ann Varvel
43:21
Do you encourage a variety of sites or to focus on groups you want to work with post graduation
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
43:30
Shenice - you have done your homework!
Shenice W Smith
43:35
:)
Danielle Meikle
43:48
what’s the student insurance for?
Sarah Ann Varvel
44:01
Danielle - Liability
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
44:03
It is to cover liability for when counseling clients.
Saiber
44:27
Hi, I was checking on the website but I was having trouble finding the TOTAL hour requirement in the PhD program in the 3 years. Is there a number? Thank you.
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
44:32
Sarah Ann - this is something a faculty member could advise you on based on your goals!
Hailey Brown
44:42
Can you complete your adv practicum and internship for the PhD program while working at the site full-time?
Hope Schuermann, Faculty
44:50
We can cover that in the PhD break out group.
Sarah Ann Varvel
44:52
Hannah - Thanks! :)
Saiber
44:58
Okay thank you
Danielle Meikle
46:24
Can you guys put the link in here?
Myranda (she/her)
46:45
https://education.ufl.edu/counselor-education/
Danielle Meikle
48:18
thank you <3
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
48:24
Saiber - total PhD hours is 90 credits minimum. We can chat about this as well in the break out group
Saiber
49:05
Thank you! :)
Nikki Fleming
50:57
This might be to specific of a question related to my situation-- but can we use the employee education program (EEP) within the master's program?
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
52:06
Hmm good question, Nikki. That might be a good question to send to James Dean. I’m not familiar with the fine print, but I would think so?
James Dean
52:55
Hello Nikki! Yes, students can utilize the EEP to take classes within our program.
Jubette Chan
53:04
pardon my ignorance , what is a GRE?
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
53:12
Thanks, James, I knew you’d be on that! ;)
Paul Maxfield (Faculty)
53:19
GRE is Graduate Record Exam
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
53:35
It is a standardized test similar to SAT
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
53:38
but for graduate programs
Nikki Fleming
53:41
Great, thank you!!
Myranda (she/her)
53:45
You can find more information about the exam here: https://www.ets.org/gre
Shenice W Smith
53:51
If you're interested in an assistantship, should this be indicated on your application?
Cassandra Gustama
54:08
Should we upload our unofficial transcripts to the online portal along with sending our official transcripts to Admissions?
Michelle Coria
54:09
If we are out of state, are we able to do the interview via Zoom even if you decide to hold internships in person?
iPhone (4)
54:35
hello, phd application question here - what kinds of activities would you like to see in that portion of the application?
Christa Beriswill
54:43
Is there a specific person to contact about advice for finding assistantships in other departments?
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
54:59
research, publications, conference presentations
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
55:08
Yes to zoom interviews
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
55:10
advocacy and volunteer work
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
55:27
clinical work experiences
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
55:44
I’m seeing lots of questions about assistantships - this might be good for a large group Q&A in a minute, or the break out groups. We will chat about this in a minute!
iPhone
56:15
Are any credits transferable from someone going from the Masters/ED.S to the Doctoral program?
Shenice W Smith
56:24
Ok great, thank you.
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
56:26
We can chat about the PhD activities in the PhD breakout group
Sarah Ann Varvel
56:42
What should our recommendors focus on in their letters?
Hamad Alhatem, doctoral student
57:14
Yes maximum of 30 credits can be transferred to the doc program
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
57:23
Oh, Sarah this is another good larger group question! Let’s see if we have time to discuss it and otherwise I can write an answer here
Sarah Ann Varvel
57:43
Hannah - okie dokie I’ll table that for later :)
Erica Serito
58:35
I was wondering what your opinion on taking a gap year between starting the master’s program. Do you recommend jumping right from your bachelor’s degree to the master’s program? Or would working for a year or two give better experience?
Christopher Gathman
59:54
Hi, Good Morning - If I apply for fall 2021 and would like to defer to 2022, is that an option or would I need to reapply?
Michelle Coria
01:00:02
Is it okay for all references to be professional if we have been out of school for a few years? Or should we try to have at least one academic reference?
Braxton Stage
01:00:13
Should we focus on similar things as the letter of recommendations in our personal statement?
Sarah Ann Varvel
01:00:15
Thank you so much for your feedback :)
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:00:28
I think either could be fine. I think if you really structure that year to explore your interests professionally and experientially, it could be good. Getting back in the swing of school can be challenging, as well, though
Paul Maxfield (Faculty)
01:00:52
Erica, it really depends on the person. Some people benefit from taking a year off of school to gain experience, but others find that taking that time makes it more difficult to get back into the flow of school. I'd say that if you have prac/internship clinical experience you can use that in your doc program.
James Dean
01:01:01
Hello Christopher. Deferment of applications is possible.
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
01:01:08
Erica - life experience cannot be replaced or developed in a classroom only, so a gap year or work experience could be great, but it’s not something we require or look for. THat’s a personal decision but I do find that students who have some life and work experience bring an extra level of maturity and focus to the classroom :)
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
01:02:22
References can be professional only - it helps to have an academic reference but not necessary unless the academic record isn’t super strong. Does that make sense?
Jubette Chan
01:03:07
how long are the essays need to be for the Masters?
Gabriel Flores
01:03:45
Is licensure achievable through the doctoral program or licensure only attainable by going through the Masters program?
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:04:02
I might just say to not spend space talking about how all friends say you have always been a great listener and how you should be a counselor. I think the authentic self is very important!
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
01:05:09
I’ll just also add that I really like to see what draws you to the profession of counseling. Sometimes it seems like an applicant just casually decided on it as a means to an end. I really want to feel the passion and see how your other interests and activities have led you to this place :).
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:05:27
You want to grab our attention with how you connect your unique experiences and connect them to your understanding of human and personal development. How do you believe you can effect change by becoming a counselor?
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
01:05:40
Essays are usually around two pages I think?
Christa Beriswill
01:06:00
I believe the website says 2-4 pages, doublespaced :)
Hailey Brown
01:06:04
Do the 3 letters of recommendation get pulled from the 5 letters that the admission application requires? Or do 3 individuals submit separately?
Jihye Suk
01:07:26
How is your master’s program similar/different compared to the counseling psych from psych dept and the clinical psych from public health school?
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:07:37
Sending Starbucks gift cards with your application can be helpful :) We just got a new Starbucks in Norman hall.
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:07:51
Just kidding, please don't do that :)
Michelle Coria
01:07:55
Hannah - just saw your response to my question. Thank you!
Danielle Meikle
01:08:08
Great question Suk
Paul Maxfield (Faculty)
01:08:31
I guess my advice for writing essays is the old "show, don't tell." Don't tell me how great you are, show me what you've done, and what makes you great.
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
01:08:40
Hi Jihye - that is a good question and very complex to answer! There are a lot of big differences and lots of overlap. This could be discussed more in the break out group, but I also encourage some time doing some research online to look at training focus and employment opportunities.
Gabriel Flores
01:08:43
I have the same questions as Suk
Shenice W Smith
01:08:44
@Elliot OR being gifted a starbucks gift card after submitting an application could be a great recruiting gesture :)
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
01:09:45
In counseling, also, our “terminal degree” as a practitioner is the masters degree. In other words, you can become licensed with a masters degree. In psychology, the terminal degree is at the doctoral level and so in most cases you need to complete both a masters and a doctorate to be licensed as a psychologist
James Dean
01:10:07
Here is the UF funding webpage - http://graduateschool.ufl.edu/prospective-students/funding/
Justin Xi Zhang
01:10:13
Do you think it is necessary to take GRE sub in psychology?
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
01:10:41
No, we do not need the psychology GRE for our admissions process
Hannah Bayne (She/her) - Assistant Professor
01:11:11
My email is hbayne@coe.ufl.edu
Ana Puig - Faculty (she/ella)
01:11:27
https://ufl.zoom.us/j/2183924749. Ana Puig: anapuig@coe.ufl.edu
Saiber
01:12:00
I apologize the above link from Ana Puig is doctoral right ?
Saiber
01:12:13
Okay thank you :)
Shenice W Smith
01:12:57
• In the summary report it mentioned that you’ve expanded your recruitment efforts for diverse candidates, what practical steps were taken to diversify the applicant pool and what changes (if any) were made to how you consider applicants?
Casey Day
01:14:43
what is the date/time structure of the classes?
Jen King
01:15:28
This may have been answered previously, but I just wanted to clarify is experience in the education field preferred? Thank you
Tatiana Gorospe
01:15:29
If I am graduating summer 2021, would I apply in the next cycle of applications?
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:16:10
I can partly answer this question, on the student recruitment side. We spent the summer researching and identifying student organizations and diverse programs in schools (such as HBCUs) to establish connections with to raise interest with a diverse pool of potential applicants
James Dean
01:18:09
Hello Tatiana. If you are planning to graduate in summer 2021, you can apply now for fall 2021 admission. You can submit your transcript up to this point and then once you graduate, we would need the official transcript.
Sondra Smith-Adcock, Faculty
01:18:24
Casey-Our classes are scheduled mostly during the day and early evenings, and most are M-R
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:18:51
Some counselors do go on to work as pharmaceutical representatives
Shenice W Smith
01:18:59
Thank you Elliot
Sondra Smith-Adcock, Faculty
01:19:11
Hi Jen. No we generally don’t require prior educational experience, but it can be helpful if you’re interested in counseling children and adolescents.
Tatiana Gorospe
01:19:12
Thank you!
Nikki Fleming
01:19:16
I work full-time in the Freshman Admissions Office on campus, how would that affect me in this program and would I be able to work with the advising office to create a schedule that works? I understand it could lengthen the time in the program but would it still be doable? Has there been any student who has done this program while working full time?
Jen King
01:19:34
Thank you! :)
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:20:07
All of our coursework is trauma informed as well
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:20:22
Increasingly we have incorporated trauma into an understanding of most mental health concerns
Mercedes Machado
01:20:22
Hi Nikki, I worked a lot (almost FT) while in the program. It’s doable, but challenging especially when you have to do practicum and internship experiences.
Mercedes Machado
01:20:54
I started off with more hours and then had to take a step back when it was time to do clinical experiences. Scheduling is a challenge, but see if your job will work with you
Nikki Fleming
01:21:19
Thank you Mercedes
Sondra Smith-Adcock, Faculty
01:21:28
Sure Nikki! We can make that work.
Mercedes Machado
01:21:31
Welcome!
Nikki Fleming
01:22:13
Thank you Sondra!
Pedro Rodriguez
01:23:47
after completing mental health counseling program, can we continue or merge with marriage and family counseling? If so, what does that look like?
James Dean
01:23:48
FYI - my email is jdean@coe.ufl.edu is any other assistance is needed.
Sondra Smith-Adcock, Faculty
01:25:41
Hi Shenice. We worked to broaden our recruitment from diverse populations of prospective students and we look at holistic admissions processes that prioritize characteristics of effective counselors, which we’ve talked about this morning. We can provide more information about this in breakout groups. Thanks for asking this question!
Shenice W Smith
01:26:23
Thank you Sondra.
Sondra Smith-Adcock, Faculty
01:26:28
Pedro, Many students plan for applying for both licenses. There are different ways to merge these two counseling specialities.
Paul Maxfield (Faculty)
01:26:51
Pedro, yes there is an opportunity for dual licensing. It may require strategic planning for your classes, so that you meet all the education requirements. Additionally, you may need to gain extra clinical hours to gain MFT experience, but it usually isn't too many. In addition you'd need to take an extra licensure exam.
Danielle Meikle
01:27:43
if a student decides to move outside of FL, how will licensing work?
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:28:23
Addictions facilities are always hiring! Especially in Florida, because Florida has the 2nd or 3rd highest per capita of addictions receiving facilities in the country.
Mercedes Machado
01:29:11
Danielle: Depending on where you move, you may need to take additional continuing education classes and sit for the exam in that state. I believe it depends on where you go.
Sondra Smith-Adcock, Faculty
01:29:19
Going out of state just means you have to know the licensure standards of the state you are going to practice in. The NBCC website is a great reference for comparing state licensure requirements.
Pedro Rodriguez
01:29:19
Thank you!
Paul Maxfield (Faculty)
01:29:24
Daniella, it depends on the state requirements. Given that we're a CACREP program, I think all the licensing boards will recognize our degree. Apart from that different states will require different hours of experience, and testing.
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:29:48
Counseling has a differential professional footprint depending upon the state.
Sondra Smith-Adcock, Faculty
01:30:02
https://www.nbcc.org/search/stateboarddirectory
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:30:04
California is tough. Counselors aren't California dreamin'.
Mercedes Machado
01:30:25
Definitely a plus that we are CACREP-accredited.
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:31:07
Not only that, but people in Florida hear and see UF and trust that that often means well-trained.
Sondra Smith-Adcock, Faculty
01:31:19
Counseling Older Populations
Mercedes Machado
01:31:41
https://spiritualityandhealth.ufl.edu/
Harley Smith
01:31:45
Who runs the mindfulness institute? I missed the name :)
Shenice W Smith
01:31:45
If your focus is LMHC are you able to do internships/practicums that focus on families as well?
Mercedes Machado
01:31:47
You can take some electives from here
Savannah Fissenden
01:32:00
Are there any electives specifically in the realm of eating disorders?
Sondra Smith-Adcock, Faculty
01:32:05
Dr. Ana Puig runs the mindfulness courses.
Sondra Smith-Adcock, Faculty
01:32:34
Yes Shenice. You can find many mental health sites that work with families.
Shenice W Smith
01:32:42
Awesome, thanks.
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:33:00
You might be able to find a course at the university in eating disorders*
Mercedes Machado
01:33:03
Nothing specifically on ED’s I don’t think, but some courses in the psychology department might be approved as an elective you can take.
Mercedes Machado
01:33:30
https://education.ufl.edu/faculty/puig-ana/
bordenca
01:33:31
Questions seem to be getting specific toward degree tracks. Can we breakout so that we can address the questions specific to the program track of interest?
Hope Schuermann, Faculty
01:33:57
Students can take electives outside of our program as well. You just need advisor approval.
Savannah Fissenden
01:34:05
Thank you!
Savannah Fissenden
01:35:42
Is there a way for the break out session to be recorder?
Hope Schuermann, Faculty
01:36:10
Unfortunately Zoom will not allow for recording in break out rooms.
Lovely A.
01:37:16
For the interview process in February will they be individual one on one interviews or group interviews with a panel?
Hope Schuermann, Faculty
01:37:52
Interviews are small group with at least 2 professors and a doc student typically.
Lovely A.
01:38:22
Thank you
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:38:44
Remember the first time you tried to drive?
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:38:49
Think practicum :)
Evan Setley
01:38:55
Are all applicants invited for an interview?
Hope Schuermann, Faculty
01:39:25
No. Applications are reviewed by faculty and then intimations for interviews are sent out based on faculty recommendations.
Evan Setley
01:39:37
Great thank you
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:39:38
Imagine the driver's ed person in the seat processing the experience with you!
Hope Schuermann, Faculty
01:39:41
Invitations :)
Savannah Fissenden
01:40:38
Is having undergrad research experience an important aspect to have during the consideration process?
Dana Cochran
01:40:52
^
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:41:02
More for doc applications*
Braxton Stage
01:43:00
What type of experiences do you look for in applicants?
Danielle Meikle
01:45:59
Do you guys get a lot of out of state applicants?
Witney Talabert
01:46:10
Are mental health related internships also a good experience?
Sondra Smith-Adcock, Faculty
01:46:23
Danielle, We do!
Mercedes Machado
01:46:36
Yes for sure Whitney!
Sondra Smith-Adcock, Faculty
01:46:47
Witney, Sure, anything related to the helping profession.
Witney Talabert
01:47:22
Thank you 😊
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:47:47
We're an hour and a half from the beach too! Leave your state and come to Florida!
Witney Talabert
01:48:06
haha 😂
Danielle Meikle
01:48:18
we leave the beach over here!
Michelle Coria
01:48:24
As someone from land-locked Ohio, this is definitely a benefit that I’m considering haha
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:48:50
We have a butterfly museum on campus!
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:48:52
=
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:48:56
Wellness
Mercedes Machado
01:49:01
We welcome people changing careers and coming to counseling ;)
Dana Cochran
01:49:07
love it!!
Paul Maxfield (Faculty)
01:49:20
Use your life experience
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:49:25
And that place called Starbucks in the building next door
Danielle Meikle
01:49:47
Ms. Schuerman, is that your fur baby in the back?
Jubette Chan
01:50:06
Marriage and family track, please and thank you.
Dana Cochran
01:50:15
kitty = wellness
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
01:50:17
That was my fur baby
John Sun
01:50:21
Marriage and Family
Nikki Fleming
01:50:33
school track please!
Carlie Hellmann
01:50:40
Marriage and Family!
Alyssa Howitt
01:50:44
Me for school please
Muriette Michel
01:50:44
School track please
Danielle Meikle
01:50:45
Mental Health
Cassandra Gustama
01:50:46
Mental Health Counseling Track please
Kaitlyn Voris
01:50:47
School track please
Dr. (Ramya) Avadhanam, Faculty, she/her/hers
01:50:47
@Danielle, I too see a tail behind Dr. Schuermann!
Jubette Chan
01:51:00
Marriage and family... This is Jubette Chan
Jen King
01:51:05
Jen King
Alyssa Howitt
01:51:05
school
Christa Beriswill
01:51:06
School
Patricia Abely
01:51:10
School Counseling please!
bordenca
01:51:12
school
Muriette Michel
01:51:16
school
Mitch Pentecost
01:51:28
maybe do show of hands instead?
Mitch Pentecost
01:51:37
raise hands*
iPhone
01:51:42
school
Michelle Coria
01:52:39
m&f
John Sun
01:52:41
Marriage and Family
Paul Maxfield (Faculty)
01:52:44
I'll go to that group
Jubette Chan
01:52:44
Marriage and family... This is Jubette Chan
Carlie Hellmann
01:53:11
Marriage and Family!
Tatiana Gorospe
01:53:15
M&F please
Mitch Pentecost
01:53:46
oops 😉
Nikki Fleming
01:54:31
me!
Nikki Fleming
01:54:38
Nikki Fleming please
Jen King
01:54:43
Can you put me in for school counseling
Shenice W Smith
01:55:40
yes
Mitch Pentecost
01:56:34
applicants vs acceptance rate?
James Dean
01:58:24
Hi Mitch. We get approx. 120 master's applications each year. We accept approx. 35-40ish students each year.
Dana Cochran
01:58:46
I know the tracks aren't offered; however, would I be able to earn a certificate with this program such as addictions through UF or would I have to do it through an outside source?
Dana Cochran
01:59:50
Thank you!
Mercedes Machado
02:02:31
I miss conferences! UF shows up in full force :)
Pedro Rodriguez
02:03:26
typically, what does the week look in reference to class times and days? Any classes night and weekends? Do any of the students work full-time?
Witney Talabert
02:04:38
How do you balance the program and working? This relates to the previous question
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
02:06:22
Luckily I've never taught any of the 8:30 classes!
Braxton Stage
02:08:47
Is there a way to tour the campus or the department?
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
02:09:17
Most of the buildings at norman are on reduced operation at the moment
Dana Cochran
02:10:46
is there an opportunity for us as grad students to see a counselor throughout the course of the program? I know some programs encourage this
Danielle Meikle
02:11:40
What’s the name of that work place?
Mercedes Machado
02:11:53
Meridian Behavioral Health
Mercedes Machado
02:12:01
Yes you can Dana
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
02:12:04
Meridian Behavioral Healthcare. They actually pay counselors the most in this area for a community agency
Shenice W Smith
02:12:19
Thats awesome
Shannon Sati Chmelar
02:12:23
As you stated in your mission statement: what does “social justice and advocacy as counseling foundations” mean practically and specifically? This seems very close to clinical social work.
Mercedes Machado
02:12:27
There is a list of counselors in town who will work specifically with counselors-in-training
Dana Cochran
02:12:43
wow! nice!! thank you
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
02:13:08
The differences between counselors and social workers is slowly disappearing
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
02:13:25
are*
Danielle Meikle
02:13:39
Mr. Woehler, what’s your email?
Mercedes Machado
02:13:42
You all can message me to at mmachado@ufl.edu
Latoya Haynes-Thoby, Faculty
02:13:47
Shannon, that is an area that there is overlap, as both Social Workers and Counselors work to hold social justice and advocacy at their core.
Christopher Gathman
02:13:52
Thank you everyone!
Elliott Woehler (faculty)
02:13:55
elliottwoehler@coe.ufl.edu
Mercedes Machado
02:13:57
APPLY!
Jasmin
02:14:01
Thank you to everyone for all of this helpful information!
Cassandra Gustama
02:14:07
This was very helpful, thank you so much!